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Response to the Andrew Meyer Tazing Incident at Kerry's Speech Posted by: 8karmapolice8
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Re: Freedom Posted by: 8karmapolice8
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Bomb The Music Industry! Tribute Posted by: 8karmapolice8
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I Had Lost My Mind Posted by: 8karmapolice8
Video duration: 100 seconds Brought to you by extreme boredom and Jazzercise/spandex-i nduced discomfort. I had just been forced to watch Flashdance by my mono-infested roommate. Needless to say, my mind was not happy. I decided to remedy that with some good Daniel Johnston. I have to say, I go on Youtube much too often these days... Related: daniel, flashdance, goof, johnston, lost, mind, my, stupid, tribute, video Display Video Comments | Hide Video Comments | Add Comment Latest comments made on this video:
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RE: Uncivilized Disobedience Posted by: 8karmapolice8
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Who are you? Posted by: 8karmapolice8
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RE: Christmas Gifts Posted by: 8karmapolice8
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By: screwmichaelmoore. on 26 Nov 08, 01:40:59
Also, tasing is NOT "supposed to be used as a last resort." A GUN is. A taser is a completely legal means of forcing compliance on combative, uncompliant individuals. His hands were NOT "pretty much behind his back." He broke 4 laws. He was under arrest. They managed to cuff his right hand. His left hand was latching onto a chair & he refused to let go. What would YOU use? The CHOKE hold? Smack him with a billy club? Kick to the nads? Mace? Or just stand there & "ask nicely"?
By: screwmichaelmoore. on 26 Nov 08, 01:33:53
How you KNOW UF has metal detectors? You DON'T. One of my 6 sons GOES there. The guy managed to come in without an ID, he could CERTAINLY manage to sneak in a weapon. What if he turned out to be another Columbine or Virginia Tech person? They didn't tase him for being obnoxious. They tased him for resisting arrest. 1st, they were removing him for not following the rules, when he fought the police, the removal changed to an arrest. When he proceeded to resist arrest, he got his ass zapped.
By: 8karmapolice8. on 25 Nov 08, 21:27:44
What does adding the part about me being "the cute blond chick" do for your argument? How is that relevant in any way? Please-- if you'd like to argue, do so. Leave out the passive sexist bullshit. Thank you.
By: screwmichaelmoore. on 25 Nov 08, 20:34:33
Look at me, I'm the cute blond chick! I wasn't there when it happened! I don't know police procedures! I don't know the use of force policy! I don't know how tasers work! I don't know the law! I don't know the campus codes of conduct! I'm going on word of mouth that some douche got tased for asking questions when in reality he caused a huge disturbance at a school function and should be kicked out, but I'm gonna post a video response and act like a moron anyway!!!!
By: LittleNard19. on 13 Nov 08, 11:46:29
You're a cutie pie. I'd like to eat your pussy like a burger.
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 22:09:07
His hands were NOT "pretty much behind his back". Meyer DID deserve EXACTLY what he got. Don't talk about freedom of speech when you have NO fucking clue what the amendment says OR means. The only "violence" was perpetrated by Meyer & there was NO excessive force. "I suggest you really consider my idea, ok". Comments based on an incorrect ASSUMPTION & idiotic OPINION is all I heard from you. My only hope is that you've since learned just how wrong you were & on how many levels.
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 22:04:15
Also, tasing is NOT "supposed to be used as a last resort". A GUN is. A taser is a completely legal means of forcing complaince on combative & uncompliant individuals. Of all of the options available to the Police to force his complaince the taser was the LEAST likely to cause harm to other, innocent, people & to Meyer. It was completely justified then & even today, with the new, more stringent, guidlines regarding taser use it STILL would have been justified given his actions that day.
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:46:24
"There were tons of undercover FBI agents around obviously." Really? Where? Don't say you're talking about the 2 men in suits being the Police seen standing behind Meyer while he's at the mic because that would be just one more, in a long list of things that you are completely wrong about. Those two men in suits were ACCENT members & were in charge of moderating the forum. How do YOU know if they were screaned? How do you know something wasn't hidden away & later picked up. You DON'T.
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:44:20
"Tasing was definately not neccisary." That's your OPINION. The FACT is it was HIS decision to be tased & it was 100% justified. He's not 5. He was told what he had to do & what would happen to him if he didn't do it. They gave him a full minute from the 1st time they ordered him to stop resisting & warned him he'd be tased if he didn't stop until they actualy did tase him. He CHOSE to be tased by CHOOSING to ignore them.
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:41:43
cont...)...tried to get others to interfere with the Police. That's Resisting an Officer with Violence, though later reduced to without, & Inciting a Riot & THAT is why he was arrested. If YOU, 8karmapolice8, "really look at what happened" you'd know just how wrong you are & on how many points. Meye was NOT "censored". The force used by Police was NOT "excessive", that's your OPINION, NOT a fact. The FACT is they used appropriate action based on HIS actions. PERIOD.
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:38:42
cont...)People keep trying to say that this was about what he said, when it is NOT. People keep trying to say the mic was cut for saying Skull & BROnes, yes, he said BROnes, NOT Bones, when it is NOT. The signal to cut the mic was given BEFORE he said S&B & was done so because he broke all of the rules & wouldn't step down from the mic. The Police were then removing him, NOT arresting him. Not until his ACTIONS warrented it. He CHOSE to resist a lawful removal from the room &...cont...)
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:36:44
cont...)Police told him that they were going to talk to him about his actions after his question & ACCENT reminded him of the forum rules. He then CHOSE to break ALL of the forum rules. As seen in the video posted by hunnybun523, when he was told to get to his question he responded like a dick. When told his time was up he responded like a dick. As seen in the video posted by fozzymandias, as soon as he said 'blowjob' ACCENT members began looking to the back of the room to get the mic cut. ....
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:34:54
cont..)...at Kerry & attempting to get to the mic. He was ordered to leave by both Police & ACCENT & he refused. That's Disorderly Conduct &, under FL law, Trespassing. As is seen in the video titled WUFT Video Andrew Meyer, he was being removed when Kerry interviened & asked that he be allowed to ask a question. Police & ACCENT honoring this request did NOT mean he was immune from forum rules & it did NOT mean the Police were to forget his earlier, illegal, actions. cont...)
By: redrumrob. on 27 Oct 08, 21:32:52
"he was doing this with the intention..." How the hell do YOU know what this idiots "intentions" were? Do you know that, following doing something obnoxious at another college event, Meyer said, "if you think that's something wait till you see what I do at the Kerry rally." Andrew Meyer was a selfish, disprespectful prick that day. He got pissed off that he wasn't going to be able to ask a question because the Q&A was OVER & he started pushing people out of his way, yelling & cursing...cont....)
By: SonGoku360. on 27 Oct 08, 21:20:01
I despise those who would use physical pain in order to make someone do something they want them to do. What is this country coming to if a person can't express his own opinions?
By: Susieshepherd. on 24 Oct 08, 23:11:43
I agree with you girl- the questions he asked, he asked for all of us- the country shouldn't put up with the election of 2000 or 2004. We should all keep asking questions because as far as we know a great injustice was done to "The People"- We're too strong of a nation to fall asleep to injustice
By: virtualdynamo. on 20 Oct 08, 00:42:48
They used a 2 second contact tase. That is not going to kill anyone. They didn't shock his heart, nor did they shoot him with the wires which attack the nervous system. What they used is like a cattle prod. The other option is dislocating his shoulder or attacking pressure points. Also, it was half a minute after they first told him he'd be tased if he didn't comply until he actually was tased. Giving him multiple chances to comply is hardly "excessive".
By: virtualdynamo. on 20 Oct 08, 00:40:00
Yes, chootastic. You ARE ignoring the facts. Kerry and Meyer have both referenced the incident BEFORE the video. I know ALL about Wikipedia. which is why I told you to USE THEIR REFERENCES. I don't know whay you can't understand that. Anyone CAn edit it, but reviewers remove stuff that isn't backed by sources. Atthe bottom of the page is a whole slew of sources for the things reference inthearticle. Use them if you care. Otherwise, you are just being stubborn.
By: chootastic. on 19 Oct 08, 21:39:45
No i am not denying the facts, i am looking at the sources you cited, and there are massive holes in them. Also Wikipedia is NOT a good reference, in that anyone can edit it. Threat to freedom my ass.
By: indiesk8r1. on 18 Oct 08, 07:19:50
There is no question it was excessive. You don't need to use a device that will potentially KILL someone when they are already being pinned down by 20 cops and have one hand already cuffed I don't care how big a jackass he is. If you think living in a country where the police can taze and potentially kill someone because they're too lazy to physically cuff his other hand is a good thing you are seriously deluded.
By: virtualdynamo. on 15 Oct 08, 17:38:42
"He had one hand cuffed and the other free. He prevented them from cuffing it. that most certainly gave them the right to cuff him." I mean the right to tase him. Non compliance gives them the right to tase him. Someone lied to you if you think they have to wait until he clearly poses some grave danger. Seriously, you are just denying facts that are well documented Why? Are you one of those who thinks their agenda is more important than facts? If so YOU are a danger to freedom.
By: virtualdynamo. on 15 Oct 08, 17:36:55
He had one hand cuffed and the other free. He prevented them from cuffing it. that most certainly gave them the right to cuff him. He was NOT ordered to make an aoplogy. His own lawyer set that up to avoid going to court, but you totally ignore that if he actually had a case HE would be the one suing them and he is not. Theree are full reports by EACH of the officerws that address EXACTLY what I am saying. Every one there argrees what happened before hand. You are arguing for nothing.
By: standj21. on 15 Oct 08, 15:42:49
Sweet heart, you've got a long way to go.
By: chootastic. on 15 Oct 08, 15:08:17
First off: if you read the report filed by the police, you will note that it is heavily censored. Huge chunks of it are missing, so i would not call that 'reliable. Second: He was ORDERED by the court to write an apology. So that's hardly reliable either. Third: He posed no threat, and was on the ground when they tazered him
By: virtualdynamo. on 15 Oct 08, 00:26:32
Of course Kerry wants to answer. He has stock answers for the questions as he's answered them many times before. Which does not help the argument that Meyer was being arrested or tased for asking those questions. But Kerry is smart enough to know people will spin it that way, so he'd rather the cops neglect their job and let the guy do as he pleases, than have people talking about a guy getting tased after (which people have inevitably edited to "for") asking him questions.